All of these machines seem to be comparable to each other but of course theyre a lot of money and I definitely want to make the right choice. The driveshaft is more durable than the Grasshoppers. But at the end of the day its irrelevant the Bradley looks more than durable enough on its own,. The Toro is the highest-rated. 6. I sat on the Cub and found my right knee may hit the lap-bar when using the deck-lift peddle even though the bars adjust. The stronger hydros on the ZT2 will last much longer for you. Its really interesting how the Internet can get facts turned upside down. Im also showing that Lowes is not going to carry most models in stock. I feel like I cant afford to buy the wrong mower, especially at these prices. Finally, learn to use your knees to cushion the ride and it is the second-best riding mower on this list. This will be handy for my open / flat areas You helped me 5 years ago buying a Big Dog Alpha and have followed and supported you since. Hi Tawanda, A good 42-inch zero-turn is a good size for your yard. This machine was a beast. Appears to be a heavy duty estate class machine, has 2800 hydros, Kohler 7000 engine, and even larger tires. Paul, I bought a Cub Cadet Ultima 54 inch deck ZTR. I can spend up to $8,000. I also have a tow behind cart I use for hauling dirt, rock and mulch. (Since the MX5050 is an old model it should be priced in the $2500 range) I have been using a Husqvarna 48 lawn tractor and have been very satisfied with it. Finally, I am a little concerned that your local dealer cant get a CA compliant mower. I only mulch, and as often the case in the NW , the grass here is damp. Hi Jim, Instead of waiting for a sale you can always ask the dealer to waive the setup and/or delivery fees. I also like the toro my ride and ariens ikon x john deere and cub cadet ultima. Even the new MyRide MX5075 uses the 2200. In my opinion, this is the lowest price point you should go for what you want to mow. (all those clipping need someplace to go and raising the deck up will let them drop into the grass) They will both work flawlessly on your normal lawn. Hi Paul. If thats way out of your budget comfort zone an alternative is the Cub Cadet Ultima ZT1 42 in. Or even a free tune-up this fall. I put about 75 hours a year on my mower. I looked at the Toro Time Cutter 54 with my ride and decided for $200 more to get the 60 without MyRide as it has a beefier trans and larger wheels in front. I do have a fence, trees and a few other yard obstacles. If you have a very thick lawn you may wish you went with a V-Twin engine. We need a new mower and at our Husky dealership they had a Rhomba like battery mower that can do up to a 35% grade. Keith, If you feel comfortable doing this: Please wear safety glasses, a face shield or a motorcycle helmet and shield. 3. The John Deere Z345R gives you one of the best cuts on the market but the mower is lightweight and has small front caters which makes it much rougher to ride on than the other brands. The long wheelbase also makes it a pain to move around on trailers because you can fit three-four ZTRs in the same space as two Grasshoppers. 10 gauge deck, commercial ZT3100 drives, and huge tires will help this mower cut well, ride well and last a long time. I did mean to say the Ariens XD, whats your take on the Ariens Apex in comparison? Discussed this with the dealer. Ariens IKON XD Mowing Review. Its very similar to the ZT X but has the stronger ZT2800 drives. 48 in deck has a 22hp Kawasaki engine/ 24hp Kawasaki for the 54 in model. Greetings Paul Guys wear them out by trying to mow on hills greater than 15 degrees, pull carts full of dirt and gravel, mow side hills or ditches over 15 degrees and dont keep the outside free of grass and debris (overheating). There are a several dealers not too far from my location near AA so I will go and see what they are like. The Kubota Z100 and Bad Boy Maverick are two popular machines within each brand. And with my analytical mind, I go back and forth and change my mind on many of these. I know I want a fabricated deck. Hi Jeffery, No, I havent been paying attention but: Go to ariens.com and sign up for the newsletter. WorldLawn used to be Encore. What do you recommend? If you still want to pick up the mulched leaves then get this sweeper> Agri-Fab 44 in. Kawasaki slowly increased the price but because of the brand acceptance the owners kept buying them. So now I am wanting to look for a machine that is between 42-60 inches, floating deck, deck lifts up for easy blade replacement/clean and performs well for lawn cutting/orchard. Hey Paul! Bad boy offers the horsepower range of 21-35, which is not entirely different from raptor sd offers. It has a baffling system that cuts the grass clean by lifting them high. Hi Joe, I want to start off and say Im not picking on you this comment has to do with the industry as a whole. Thanks in advance! Run the proper tire inflation or 2 lbs less in the rear and it will ride well. I am searching for my first zero turn rider. A friend says I should get a Kubota that will last the rest of my life. They dont have many dealers but if you order from them they will always take care of you if you ever have a problem with their products. Just not sure if I should look for a ZTR that is heavy, one that has wide tires, etc. I would like your thoughts on my situation if you will, I live in rural eastern NC where the soil tends to have a lot of clay and its necessary to have drainage ditches for storm runoff. Unfortunately, he dropped me as a customer after the second year, saying that the hillside was tearing up the transmission on his (relatively old) mower. I noticed right away the Deere appears to have a lighter frame, which I liked, so it weighs less. The Toros controls are further back than the Country Clipper. Take care. They both have the best cut. BTW If you look at the photos of both standers, the Bobcat frame / deck does look nearly identical (look at the caster arms, deck, deck suspensions). But I dont know if Id like the lighter Deere better than the heavier Cub, or if the heavier Cub would hold up and work better??? Its not a manicured lawn but its not bad either. (I dont have a bagger) I usually mow in side discharge mode in the spring and then switch to mulching after the spring growth slows down. It will do just fine and last you a long time. Youve done an excellent job of researching and then going through all the features that you like and dislike. Hi Jon, You wont over-stress your mower unless the grass is building up to the point where its stopping the deck. The Gravely ZT XL model seems to be a good sweet spot with the 2800 transaxles and well-built machine. Paul a number of years ago I purchased a Craftsman 42 inch mower (T2200) that you recommended. Cant go 50 because of my gate. I am now in the need for something more robust as the big dog has had a tough time on my farm. Yes, when you read the lawnmowers forums and talk to dealers Kawasaki does appear more popular. It is a step up from the Titan in ruggedness. Im going to suggest the Ariens IKON XL 42 in. Your second issue is many ZTRs are light in the front and the mower could tip over backwards going up that steep of a slope. If you dont have the experience get a 36-44 inch walk-behind and use that until you get the experience. (It will be set up and delivered by a local dealer) I checked the Redding, CA website and they can get either one to you in about 2 weeks. And with over 40 commercial brands out there it may never catch on. The Ariens company also makes the Gravely ZT XL. I think theres always 100.00 off to new card members for their first purchase. Let me tell you why! This is the only reason I havent bought one yet. The smaller ones are top-heavy, wobble around on rough ground, can be very tippy and dont have good traction on rough ground or slopes. Theres a local Gravely dealer that seems reliable and good to work with. The dealer will do the tuneup and make sure everything is working perfectly. Ill make a small commission from the sale. The $2k difference from high to low seems like a lot but the dealer was pushing the $5100 one. OEM might even be kevlar belts but they pretty much always cost more. Some commercial operators keep their mowers maintained and run them thousands of hours, junk them and then buy new. Any thoughts on those? Hustler Raptor XD (cheapest with serv. People like their Scag commercial mowers and owners really like how well this one bags but to me its just another middle-of-the-road mower. In your case the Walker H with a rear discharge deck would be the ultimate choice. It cuts well and is built like a tank. The 52 Vanguard is $4800 at SLE, but it only gives you 4 more deck.. Here is the Country Clipper website to locate a dealer in New Zealand: Country Clipper. It also guarantees a constant oil cleaning process. I know you said, walking is a pain but there is the Toro TimeMaster 30 in. Probably not but if your property is rough, has slopes greater than 10 degrees, you want to get done as quickly as possible or you have teenagers who are learning to use a zero-turn then it is worth moving up to the XT2. Hi Rob, My first choice is the Ariens IKON XL at Home Depot. (Im assuming your lawn is rough). Thanks Paul, thats great that you drove this and would buy one. The man who mows for me would like for the mowing to take less time and the mower to require less repair. Which One Is This? This is Walkers first-ever residential mower. I was hoping for Ariens (good bang for buck), but they only offer the 2200 transaxles through their X and XDunits and can only get the 3100 axles on the Apex units which are pretty close to the same price as gravely ZT HD. The mower will be used for residential 5 plus acres. My budget is $6,000 or less. My local Country Clipper only has a new 2018 Boulevard and a used 2016 Boulevard with 38.5 hours on the meter. house/pond/etc) the cost for them vs. DIY justifies a new machine for the garage. Toro TimeCutter SS Mulch Kit. This turned into long story long so again i really appreciate your time! Several years ago you helped me purchase my Craftsman Pro Series 42 riding mower. Hi Frank, there is only one the Ryobi 38 inch rider. Bradley Stander 48. What is your preference between the Kohler 7000 and the Kawasaki FR engines? Hi Laurrelle, There are very few front deck mowers on the market. Now, if you have no one around when you are mowing and have strict instructions with all the kids and adults in your neighborhood not to come on your yard when you are mowing you may try lifting the side discharge chute high enough so the grass clippings spread evenly. Yes, I know pretty anal. You can get different variations of each mower, but both machines weigh in between 862 and 925 lbs. I dont think youll be happy with Husqvarna 254 over the years. Thank you Paul. I was leaning toward the Gravely/Ariens just trying to suss this as thoroughly as I can. They are rated for over 500 hours which for most people equals 2 hours a week for over 10 years. Toro is aimed more towards residential and government use. In addition, there is an optional jack for it so you can quickly raise the front of the mower to work on the deck. And I apologize for the somewhat mis-information. Make sure you idler pulley moves freely and that it spins freely. 1. 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