Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Scurry was the starting goalkeeper for the United States womens national soccer team at the 1995 World Cup and 1996 Summer Olympics. She played college Football for the University of Notre Dame. 'Voice/ style preference is always subjective - to say it shouldnt be allowed says more about the critic. Conference tournament season for the mens college basketball world began on Monday with the first two games of Tuesday, February 28 LA Lakers at Memphis, TNT 7:30 p.m. Ian Eagle, Jim Jackson, & Jared Greenberg Minnesota AwfulAnnouncing.com is a Sports fan web site and is in no way affiliated with any media organization, any professional sports league, team, organization, or its Properties. However, according to Simon Kelner in hisiNewspiece,Female world cup pundits are a step forward for diversity, but not for the quality of coverage, they neednt have bothered. This isnt sexism did you spot that first paragraph about how great Aluko is? Least favourite has to be Jonathon Pearce though. Safest Bet in Sports: Men Complaining About a Female Announcer's Voice. I think that there are times when it would be nice if we just heard the crowd and got the atmosphere but it seems that if one person speaks then immediately if feels the other person has got to say something. Support 100 years of independent journalism. You love to see it Go Cry Jeff FOH," he tweeted. Viza has in-depth knowledge of Spanish Womens Football. Scott, who earned over 100 England caps, will also become the first woman to host the BBCs Football Focus. The numerous caps, extensive World Cup experience, and on-screen charisma of Aluko and Scott mean nothing here. Aluko is an ex-footballer raised by Nigerian parents in the UK. Davies, 80, said: Theyre a tough listen because we havent heard them in the past. The former England player says she felt prepared for negativity, but one vicious Twitter pile-on made her question her choices. I think my point hasnt been well made but I want the commentary to be that not ex players jumping in over the top with a totally pointless thought and a voice just not suited to it! I bet your talented daughter has more sense than her old man and wouldn't consider an old fashioned and slightly backward comment to be worth an assault charge and a criminal conviction. Expert summarisers, like Alex Scott (rubbing thighs in the style of Vic Reeves on Shooting Stars), yes. She typically calls women's college sports, and became the second woman to call nationally televised college football games for ESPN in 2005. Others accused her of not knowing what she was talking about, whilst there were plenty saying she was stating the obvious and not offering anything different. However, in 2021 the cast of talent discussing the mens game is markedly more diverse. The US Spanish ones, however, are brilliant. Davies, famed for brilliant commentary moments such as Just look at his face!, said: Everything is in a hurry in the present generation. I dunno about you guys but I fucking hate Robbie savage. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Michael Owen sends me to sleep and Mark Lawrenson just shrugs and grunts. Andrew Strauss was awful when he first briefly took on the role, but eventually got less wooden. Published: 09:51 GMT, 25 June 2018 | Updated: 09:25 GMT, 26 June 2018. Sign up for a new account in our community. 14. If I get one name wrong, I know its going to be trending onTwitter., Smith says the negativity she receives is usually related to her gender, and often references the kitchen. However presenter and reality TV star Lizzie Cundy, who was previously married to Jason and has spoken in the past about supporting women in football, said: 'l think women are just as capable and as good as any man to talk about football. Mens football is much more prominet that womens football. Fuck me their all prolifically SHIT!!! However, I do understand and partially agree that there is reason to believe positive discrimination has led to female commentators getting to commentate on big matches before theyve really proven themselves elsewhere. North East-born sports presenter Vicki Sparks, 29, made history this week as the first ever woman to commentate live on a World Cupgame for British television. She currently works as Sporting Director at Angel City FC in the US. This is reasonable! The female commentators in this years mens World Cup Eni Aluko and Alex Scott have done an outstanding job of navigating the patronising minefield of the punditry box. P.S. Beth Mowins is a God-awful play by play announcer with a weak voice who really . Following Mowins's debut, social media was filled with criticism of. Gruden can kick rocks, but we weren't fans well before this whole mess. To be fair the issue youre referring to isnt "women commentators" it's simply bad commentators. The Whites brutally mocked her on social media, with owner Andrea Radrizzani getting involved, as footage was shared of Carneys analysis of Leeds style following their 5-0 victory against West Brom at the Hawthorns last month. Not impressed:Piers' fellow GMB co-host Susanna Reid (far left) was unimpressed by Jason's opinion, pointing out that when his voice was compared in pitch to Sparks' it was actually in the same range, During the show, Reid (far left)tried to draw the debate to a close remarking sarcastically: 'God forbid a woman could talk for ninety minutes it's something I can only dream of'. She presents and commentates for the BBC, Five Live and ESPN . Theres a few male commentators just as bad! Lyndsey explained that young girls who were football fans now had 'someone to relate to'. So, it is easier for male ex-footballers to retire and get famous as a fotball commentator. A weekly newsletter helping you fit together the pieces of the global economic slowdown. Ive never kicked a football on a professional or even a semi professional level but I still reckon I could a better job than this wanker. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. It comes just days after Karen Carney was on commentary again, covering Chelseas game against Luton Town on Sunday afternoon. Sparks is the first woman to commentate live on a World Cup game for British TV. It was like listening to Joe Pasquale! what is it with BT SPORT and employing shocking commentators! BBC legend Barry Davies says men find female football commentators "tough" to listen to because their voices get too squeaky. I would say the same thing about Paul Ince. How do you plead?'. Lets ask Karen Carney pic.twitter.com/wpOCSR2waz, Alistair Skeet (@marbleally) January 24, 2021. Alicia Ferguson is an Australian ex-footballer who now works as a commentator, pundit, and TV presenter. Of which there are men and women. To widen the discussion tocricket I feel that it is a different matter. Happens in a lot of other sports now - liked the dart lady a few weeks ago. There are many great women involved In football today such as my friends Jacqueline Gold and Karren Brady and I hope we see more women involved in football. I can identify with it. From online sexist comments to even clubs calling out individual female pundits for their analysis, the path to equality has taken its toll on some of its history-makers. Its a simple job, describe whats happening and let the analysists/pundits do the rest. There is no way of arguing that two women should not be on our screens during the mens World Cup, without also arguing their gender makes them innately worse at the job. BBC legend Barry Davies says men find female football commentators tough to listen to because their voices get too squeaky. 'There are so many people that loved what Vicki did and people that didn't, what's important is that we have a choice, we didn't have a choice before,' she added. But Jason complained that he didn't enjoy listening to a woman commentating during a match, because their voices are too 'high-pitched'. View our online Press Pack. Being spoiled by my rich friend makes me feel like a charity case, Anti-agers no one but you needs to know about,Inge Van Lotringen tells all, How to dress like a grown up: Trust me, loose fit can be flattering, says Shane Watson, The one thing I've learnt byBinky Felstead. Ferguson worked as a studio commentator for ESPN. I hate her as well - cr? It can be expressed more eloquently perhaps by saying that you agree with equality of opportunity but not equality of outcome. Simon Kelner wrote in i at the time: Its like getting a netball player to discuss major league basketball.. Piers then fumed: 'In this gender equality battle, you've got to pick your fights, this is not a fight to pick. Login. Had to turn the volume off! Olga Viza is a Spanish journalist and Commentator. Dont say we didnt warn you lol #karencarney #shit. Like with everything else in life, I think that if a person is good enough they should be given a chance, male, female or any of the other new gender alternatives but deary me. That or they had to turn over. We told you. Careful the next time you come in.' The thread is called women commentators on mens football, youmade it aboutthe commentators beingwomen. Privacy Policy. Surely it should be about quality in the job and not just to make sure you comply with the PC requirements? She has since been let go from her position but her time as play-by-play announcer has not been forgotten. If shes not good at commentary then thats not her fault but the fault of BT. And please dont use the word lady when you mean womanunless you always call men gentlemen. Consequently the s-exof the commentator is probably irrelevant. 00:00. For four consecutive seasons, Hannah Storm and Andrea Kremer have commanded the booth for Amazon Prime Video's coverage of Thursday Night Football . I was thinking, I dont really want it to be a big deal [that I was the first woman]. When I was younger I didnt see a Karen Carney on the TV or a Sue Smith. ESPN executive shuffle sees Burke Magnus overseeing content, Rosalyn Durant overseeing rights, NFL Films archived lewd footage of female fans and cheerleaders with sexualized descriptions, per lawsuit, Baylor AD Mack Rhoades suggests Big 12 might poach Pac-12 schools: There may be movementhow do we strengthen ourselves?, Exclusive: former MLB stars A.J. Karen Carney has been the total opposite.. Hey! Absolutely superb. ', Good Morning Britain airs weekdays on ITV from 6am. Hardly ever adds useful insight. Although that said, I do agree with your overall point. Im not asking to be on the TV because Im black or because Im gay or because Im a woman, Sanderson says. The BBC legend believes women 'have to be careful of the upper register of their voice' when commentating on football. Joe Tessitore and Booger McFarland (ESPN) - 1.29. If I don't like the commentators I hit the mute button. For 90 minutes I would prefer to hear a male voice. And I think your football career probably sets you up for that you get used to getting that constructive criticism. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. And theiropinion is equally as valid as the majority is opinion. Kelner also seems to have forgotten the purpose of sports punditry (to be fair, hes not a football commentator, so how could he know?). ', Chelsea footballer Fran Kirby added: 'How about we just go back to the dinosaur ages to 1921 and ban women's football? Pam Ward has long been a subject of ridicule for her play-by-play announcing of NCAA football and with good reason. A big part of this shift sees ESPN content executives Stephanie Druley, David Roberts and Norby Williamson now reporting to Magnus instead of Jimmy Pitaro. Was the first woman ] 09:25 GMT, 25 June 2018 ) January 24, 2021 a match, their! 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