They are looking for a get rich quick scheme promised to them by our so-called competitors that are mad because they got some of their clients taken away by us. They have had this mission for the last 30+ years. And you pay for E adn O insurance? Using life insurance to pay for LTC is not a prudent use of it. Im not sure where all this energy comes from to spend time writing blogs trying to discourage people from primerica. Since you only sold Life insurance I can see why you might think that having a product that does cost more, but gives more might be a hard thing to sell. I am STILL waiting for some facts, figures, and product details (and business-model discussions), from Primericans. But then again you are here to see if you can bash me into submission. . Most companies wont even talk to these guys unless the client comes in themselves, or they have a lump sum of cash to invest. WebPrimerica (NYSE: PRI) is a leading financial services company in North America that provides financial products such as term life insurance, mutual funds, and annuities. Between church activities, loved ones, and my current job, I just felt that I wasnt able to put enough time/effort into Primerica. I know that you will not believe me and I surly will not believe an unlicensed person in what you will come up with. That was an honor. It cost more to get it by your self. Who really benefited? When it comes to financial issues, it is personal. Again Tom like you said, Can you do better, possibly. Citi does nto pay for offices, staff, or anything else. Point: if you are marketing Primericas term, you are not offering your client the best product, both in price and feauturs. Life insurance is to protect the family if you die early. They did not have FACT, they had OPINIONS. As far as me joining Primerica, the reason I havent is because I dont want to. LOL. Term4Sale is owned by COMPULIFE Software, Inc. which sells term comparison software to thousands of life agents throughout the U.S. and Canada. Anyone can use it, even someone who does not hold a license. Please list facts. They teach about everything in the Series 66 license. It usually keeps the bed bugs off me and the family. If you lay down with dogs you will get up with fleas. One tool is the FNA. I say that because he already has it postedGood Luck in whatever you do, Hey Bob Lotich, Which brings up another question. When I have had friends that were looking for an educational fund for thier daughter and got sold an annutity instead, I get aguementative. I dont know if its still true, but look at Ide really like to take a look at the FNA you had done, maybe youre confusing it with your boys over at edward jones. Terminal Illness rider, is one. As with ALL things, Primerica may not be for everyone whether its being a rep or a client of Primerica. I have the ability to offer more than just life products. Really., And you missed it AGAIN. What if you ran into a senior who couldnt afford their current life policy they had for years and were about to cash it in. Everyone here is pure and do nothing wrong. Could this be the reason for the hateful and deceitful posts? I had to say that fro James jenni and Michaels benefit since they might not get it.) Well Here it is the advertisement. Between I glad: you need an am Now in some parts it is ok to forget these verbs, but not in California. Any one saying differently does not have any value in the product they are selling. Here is the second part of the equation, invest the difference. I am sorry to hear about it, but he made the choice. They sell at a loss to get the client and harass them. My question is what have you compared what you have found with? The second thing that turned me off was the referral/recruiting process. A new example what happens if you buy insurance and the company disappears, closes it doors. (Yes it is harder and you need to do more paperwork, but it is do able.) . Remember, its not just the whims of your clients that can get you in trouble, but also those of your downlines. It may not be the best option for what that customer is looking for or needs. Williams. Remember Price only matters in the absence of value. In the beginning A.L. Remember you do whats right 100% of the time. and secretly i know each and every one of you has a pfs life policy u know u do too who did u compare it withuhh thats right.. no one.. u bought in to it all ;p, Your comment is awaiting moderation. So I went to office location, it was there garage. Only out of respect since I liked her and an old boss of mine, I agreed to meet with her for lunch. Primerica Secure is a personal lines insurance referral program in which representatives may refer individuals to Answer Financial Inc., which offers insurance products and services through its licensed affiliates, including Insurance Answer Center, LLC. James, If you not either of those then you are a scam artist, hiding behind the saying I tried it and my way is better. Again you prove your lack of knowledge. It is so nice you are concerned about being sold. They are more expensive, but they are worth the value. liek. Banks are not even safe. Having to worry if they are doing it right and not having to go back to the client with your mistakes. plus when will you become financially independent working for your boss? Who wants to call for your claim and get someone in India that requires you to jump through hoops. Its impossible. NO, no company can fit everyone. But isnt the main point of owning a business is to have a key. These companies then call them up and say convert. You are a pain in the rear and you must feel the need to argue only to argue. Where is the guaranteed insurability? Last night I saw your program on TBS the three stooges with Tom, Tom, & Tom. What are thiose situations? Tom says You are right, but you hit upon one of the biggest cost. How about skinning your knees as a kid? Its methods my not be typical, but you have to admit at some level it is very effective. Period., I believe you would have better understood what I was getting at here had you read the entire post. I have the ability to offer more than just life products. There are also some complaints about the poor presentation of some meetings done by some RVPs. They could not get what they wanted so they left Primerica. . But then it would not be good for the client on for you and your commissions. Again, He did not say it to me, but gave me thrid party articles. All you need to do is have a need to make extra income. RECRUITING JUSTIFICATION: well lets see.. get the blind teaching the blind and say who am i to judge who will make it or not and yes then you can put your head on the pillow at night.. well, thats if you have no real judgement and are more motivated by what, oh ya, the dream of money and success; ah so hypicritical. Yes they do help people by getting them on a program that may be better than they had before they met with a PFS agents. They cut 10 years of their debt, by showing them how to use a debt stacking program that is theirs for free. I guess that is the only way he can win. You have those licenses and you have been caught lying here. Just like every other job or business there is good and bad because you deal with people. So this means that the insurance company gets to keep the extra money. I basically found out that it is a MLM. Like I said clients can go anywhere they want to go. If you argue with Idiots, they just drag you down to their level and then beat you there with their experience. With my investments I am worth a lot. Micheal saying it is 199 not 99 and does not cover the extra licenses. Or do you want an agent that lives near you to help you. If Art never sold A.L Williams that company would be huge. Williams. I know you need to cover every illness? Costing them money in Bonuses. Just go make money for you and your family. Primerica registers as a general agency, no different than State Farmnot an MLM. Could it be that people cant be trusted? If he is making that amount (900K) from personal production I would hate to see what he can do on the outside. If the term policy isnt a ROP once they let it go, the clients gets nothing..Lets say a person who is age 60, gets a 20 guaranteed level year Term, at end of Term what are the options? Im in the learning stages right now but I believe Primerica works with Edward Jones. Im going to clear up a few things here. Do you need to sell ice to an Eskimo? Again, I am not here to bash anyone. A quote And then you have the Titty twister. I am enjoying it so far, things have went well. So, if anyones argument is that the client doesnt want to be committed to a 20 year loan, heres my rebuttal: If they cant afford my 20 year theory, they cant afford your bi-weekly payment either. May be you are Like Micheal someone that had to leave or could not pass the back ground check. It is the trick most agents outside of Primerica do when they need to prove they are right by having alter egos. ). The next morning, a member of my wifes family called and said she was also working with Primerica. Now, any adviser that says term is temporary is planning on selling them Cash value. They can also keep calling them since they are the company. You tried this stuff with me, I would boot you out of my house. They bought the business with the Liability, but got a free sales force. Quality matters to me, and most people. As always its about the needs of the client and offering a solution. -. Ill await your answer. That doesnt make any sense at all. You are right, but you hit upon one of the biggest cost. I wont even attempt to comment on your race analogy. However, with todays competitive market, both in products and career opportunities, there truly is no overwhelming reason to do business with them, or to go into business with them. i dont understand how you could think you know everything from a fna try being a client for twenty years then you can talk about the company. I am curious, do you not think that Mutual funds are non-managed? 20yr. When it was merely a term vs cash-value game, the facts and products were on their side. You asked why selling only PFS is bad. ANd if you say universal life, or variable universal life are cheaper, they implode so fast it is not even funny. I am sorry, Buy Term and invest the Difference is not a slogan that Primerica created. Im living proof of that, and countless others as well (as you know PFS doesnt hide income levels its all right there on POL). Do say that to your clients before they sign up? You also said, same reason why I hire salespeople that have sold to different companies. I am grateful for PFS introducing me to the industry, but also you have to consider I also gave them business from my friends and relatives. Did you ever call your agent and ask them about the pros or cons on a Senior/Life Settlement? Thats where he wants to stake his claim. A.L. If the company pays more they have less money to service me. There are many companies that have them. Michael, If you were half as smart as you thought you are, you would know it has not been CitiGroup for months if not years please get your FACTS correct. Well Since you cant win, or beat the knowledge I have given, you are like that cash value agent that ran from my house when he knew he could not win with his lies. Take a product and increase the price to pay the field force and give the company a profit and attack the warm market. and these two guys are definitely being missed by their respected villages, I need to go. ***Because your going to bring it up. We are independent. ***Agents at PFS are independent contractors. If they wont/cant cover a client, what do they do? -. If the company I am paying to is out of business like the 50% of the companies that were here in 1977, that are not here now, I can be out of luck for my insurance. And has been around a little longer than the last couple months. Our competitor Smith Barney of course, a wirehouse, is reputable and where they send clients for investment advise and financial planning. It is called how much can we lie cheat and steal from the Middle American Family with products that will not help them retire, do not completely insure them ( Just look at teh implosion rate of Cash value), and that will make us rich our agents rich, and will make sure that our clients will need us for their entire life. You said: Wonderful for you. But after reading your posts, they would ahve to be really stupid not to question your logic, and knowledge. DO your Homework, and take advise only from those who are qualified to give it. Yes you can make more money outside of PFAS. This way we can see whose opinion counts in the end. But you negative people have to just talk crap about everyone else to make yourself feel better or atleast you exploit the 18yr idiot i think ive seen as high as 40yr idiot at a volnerable time in their life so rest easy. Performance information may have changed since the time of publication. In quantitative variables, ratio types are variables with true zero values and cannot have negative values. He write paragraphs after paragraphs, sometimes multiple consequtive posts, but never says anything. I am so glad you can cut and paste. Now they cant afford the payments, and the homes have decreased in value. Regarding the incident in Bountiful, UT, if the reps and RVP committed a crime, they should be punished. This is after they paid for both. 70. I understood what they were trying to do as far as selling insurance and refis and other things like that. . I also gave them new agents from my recruits. I knew that from the get-go, but instead of looking at it from the standpoint that most people do (wow, that sucks, 98% will never make the big bucks), I said me and one other person here are going to have a lot of fun here!. Term that is being used as a loss leader, to sell the more profitable Cash value. I am curious what you have to say about this? I found out many people are losing money in their investment programs and it may take years to recover. Tell that to the terminally ill patient. Respectfully, I really dont care what you think. Have you ever thought of Running for Congress? I began my research simply because I knew someone (whether it was PFS or the rents) didnt have the truth but I was gonna get it in my own time. To learn about how interest and money really works and how they can get their money tom work for them. To be completely honest your current situation sounds much better (full production credit (100%) and 100% up-front commission). So what I am saying is if you have been a secretary in a finance company, you may still not know, if all your friends are in finance you may still not know. Thats 613.08 per year savings. The sell it as a loss leader. Yet now, he does what he wants, when he wants. They not just sell a product but give advice. Just remember, NBIP (nothing personal in business). Extra money invested in loaded brokerage account funds OR company provided variable annuity accounts. And then you find out it is only a sales pitch. The cash or the money added as a saving plan for the insurance company to offset the cost of the insurance. Limiting the amount is a prudent business decision since they are limiting their liability. Even Bubba knew that. But then they would not have the stories about how they were only a housekeeper, and now they own their own business. A couple of things, briefly. The only one who wins is them. Proteins have four levels of organization. If you look at 9/11. IF you cant even do a simple spell check or at least look at what you are post for the red lines, why should any one trust what you are saying? What happens if one dies? Therefore you become your own bank. So this brings up a question. You are told you are a bussines owener. The option is not there to bankrupt the family. e) AND COSTS LESS! So you see Tom its not just about price. Tom, you said, by the way in past posts you have said you were an agent. Or they use it to get the person number to convert. You recruit and train each individual to work independently just like you and the perk is that you are rewarded for training that person. Something someone important said, No one can see the heart of a champion. ! *****The biggest is AIG. Truths about PFS IBA. Primerica has an agreement with Prepaid Legal to market a plan for them. Second, why is captive so bad. No Office: Same thing as above. Primerica life is never the cheapest, but then I pay for quality. I can even bet you signed a clause but did not know about it. He had not once responding with facts, figures, features, logic, reason or data. Here is one more fact: When Primerica was A.L. Hiding behind different email and different alias. Tom side by side. Primerica wants their money back .. which means they take it out of the next check or the next one or the next one which means you are running up an escalator and YOU KNOW IT . I am sorry If I must beat the dead horse again. Sometimes people later in life develope health issues or life has just thrown them a curve.. Tom, just remember before you become the pot thats calling the kettle black, about my spelling again NPIB, you misspelled somethign and doe sthe and you upper cased the n in ANd and IN. The process of measuring vertical distances in surveying is called leveling. , You are forgetting that the same tax considerations is on both policies. Having some one else pay for the E and O for a starting business is great. Yes, my upline gets paid via my sales, but to me thats a way I can ensure I get the proper training and support(i.e. I am curious, what do you do when you clients cancel to get a better price. And an OPPORTUNITY to for others to make money on a part time basis. Now if you are selling cash value, you need the secruity license to sell variable insurance. Why would anyone believe that you look at ther fiduciary duty to the client? An adviser can be locked into one company. -, Example of what Tom doesnt know, but says it like he does, Immediate Ownership: Well the IRS says you are a business owners, but you say they are not. I do not have to give up a leg to be promoted. If you as a consumer called me and said James, I have a Trane 5 ton Gas Pack rooftop unit and would like to have it replaced, do you sell them? ), And in WMA/WFG they made the same bragging. Third, did you know that the clients of Primerica get a debt stacking program free? Let me show you again your errors. Especially, when I return the treatment by the same way that I was being treated, no one wins. He families lifestyle demands that he makes money to pay for the house they live in, the cars they drive and the life he gives them. Please, show us how the PrimElite IV is a higher quality product. (Citigroup did, however, Primerica is not Citigroup). Primericas business is Primerica. I can see it now. I do know how it works since I am constantly being recruited. I agree to receive the Forbes Advisor newsletter via e-mail. When verifiable information is presented you say its not accurate. My RVP says that Primericas policy is, you pay, you die, we pay meaning that Primerica almost always pays out regardless of the cause of death (obviously there are a few exlusions namely death by suicide within the first two years of the policy). And, the new policy is based upon the spouses CURRENT age, not their original age, thus increasing the cost. Wrong, but then again you still like to use Wrenches as hammers, instead of getting the correct tool. You can bring up any example but this is looking at it from large numbers not an individual situation. G stands for General. READ IT CAREFULLY. And then see it from a company not looking to make money off either side. Exactly what does th issue with todays mortgage crisis have to do with someone who has a health situation and high health care cost? What you do not have to worry about is with James is things like having support and training. If you work you get paid. Mistake number one, trying to say someone wants a guarantee, when you know that the odds are they will change or cancel the policy. I am 100% I know that what I am doing is the correct way of doing things and therefore I must only answer for myself. We just had a competition period end for an all expenses paid trip to San Francisco and I was able to qualify top 20 in my category. Tom the company by contract is going to pay out 100% of the face amount. As part of the settlement, Citigroup also agreed to pay a $100 million fine and to reimburse issuers of municipal auction-rate securities for all refinancing fees they have incurred on auction-rate securities issued through Citigroup between August 1, 2007 and February 11, 2008. Did you notice most of their programs get them where they need to be in 20 years or less? We have clauses because we are an organization that is growing and attracts a lot of different kinds of people, good ones and bad ones. Just like the insurance companies that got away with canceling all those policies in the 70 and 80s when they imploded. You say what I can offer is cheaper but cost more to use other features. And that was in the policy, and planned. For you, Oh my gosh, hes making money off this person and that one! type of people out there (love the internet).take a really good unbias look at how ALL FINANCIAL SERVICES companies work. The truth is coming out about you. The amounts depend from 50K-100K. 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