Current address 81693 Camino El Triunfo, Indio, CA 92203 $1,760: B. I was trying through the night to remember how close your mat must have been to mine. If you dont take responsibility for your body, you will end up in a wheelchair! There was somehow an implied knowledge of that but nobody spoke out. Love scar [ Flower Rain] EP.1c #Jerry Yan, Karen Mok. Its not like its not going to happen. This journal arises as an outcome of the Centre for Like, Karen Rain and Jubilee Cook published this amazing I hope this goes into the show notes this amazing essay in Yoga International that the title is something like What do survivors of sexual abuse in Yoga communities need? And its like a white paper that basically lays it out and says, Look, here we are, were sexual assault survivors of a 20th century yoga master. Um, and Ive taken a few classes here or there. Still I was both sexually assaulted and violently adjusted by Jois on his visits to the States, as I detailed in Matthews article. He is the author of eight books of poetry, fiction, and non-fiction including Threads of Yoga: A Remix of Patanjalis Sutras. He can go on and teach whatever he wants. Thank you for helping to free yoga from the clutches of patriarchy and misogyny. Its harrowing to read. He pretty much stayed out of the way. Previously, I was a postdoctoral fellow in the Laboratoire Jacques-Louis Lions at Sorbonne Universit with Prof Ugo Boscain and a member of the Inria Paris team CAGE. And that hes doing it for his own gratification and that theres no therapeutic benefit to this. I'd also heard about the amazing and impressive Karen Haberman, and tried to find out why she'd left the scene. . I hate that phrase, but I think theres theres nothing to have been done about it. Theyre coordinating with a few other second generation of Ashtanga teachers. I go into detail in the book, on a Sanskrit word that is parampara. On 03/21/2018 KAREN SHARON HABERMAN filed a Personal Injury - Motor Vehicle court case against MICHAEL LEIDNER in Los Angeles County Superior Courts. Well, they mightve been traditional in the sense that thats what Krishnamacharya did to him. We use cookies to give you the best online experience. So when we go to Instagram and we look at yoga images right now were looking at least part of a legacy of people really having to perform under the male gaze in more ways than one. Yes, this seems to be a common story. So I had the sense around 2015 or 16 that if what I was hearing was true and I believed that it was true, that it would really rock the foundations of this particular community. And I was scared of that. I refer to it here and there throughout the book because you cant really avoid it. If you are deceived about why you are in a place, about what is going to offer you, then youve really already had your agency taken away. Theyre following a series of postures that theyve been given in a successive stage-like manner. And he actually describes being brutalized by Krishnamacharya being beaten as he learned to do asanas. Karen Rain is a writer, tutor and nature lover. And I found it very weird for a so-called therapeutic practice that people came to for spiritual benefit, but they also seem to be working themselves really hard in. Right. But the thing is, is that administratively we have this sense that while hes been excised, somehow hes been amputated and, you know, were all fine now. Even just recently Sharath has accepted the title parama guru, claiming the fact that he is the only true representative of an ancient lineage and the only person to authorize teachers, etc. Search records by state to find the best match for Karen Rain. For security, use of Google's reCAPTCHA service is required which is subject to the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Use. Lets be a collective of equals in which any form of teaching is not handed down in vertical relationships and where gurus can do as they please. Although its not like the reactions that theyve had to my more informal blog work over the years, which a lot of people have just been able to dismiss or to say its agenda driven or something like that or that, You just hate our community, or something. What would you like to see, see moving forward? And you could meditate your way into believing that there was perhaps, but most people are not actually having that experience and we shouldnt be telling them that they should. Matthew Remski writes and presents on yoga and ayurveda in the shadows of capitalism and climate change. And you know, she didnt give the impression in the interview that she totally bought off on the idea then, but she bought off on it enough to be confused and to be disarmed and to be put in this position where she felt that her own critical thinking or her resistance to the idea was somehow problematic. And two of its leads are Scott Johnson from London and the UK. Karen Rain Speaks About Pattabhi Jois and Recovering from Sexual and Spiritual Abuse. And then youre isolated also from people within the group because there are certain things that are taboo to talk about. Someone shared something you had blogged about, about abuse and some of these problematic dynamics in the yoga world. Questioning the guru was certainly considered theory. Im happy to hear that. More importantly I think there needs to be a disclaimer that Sharath has any form of guru status, that he knows our bodies better than we do. The cover-up has to stop and what has been done has to be owned. Like, this is not a regulated profession. This site hosts over 200 original posts on current affairs in modern global yoga and Buddhist culture. And with regard to my profile, well, we all have jobs and you know, my job as strange as it is and as self-made as it is, is that I look at abuse and spiritual communities. Thats what they said. Filter by age or state to narrow your search to find the person you are . Thats, thats mixed. Associated persons: Eloise Caldera, Joseph G Caldera, Henning Franzen (951) 227-3174. We have 6 records for Karen Haberman ranging in age from 39 years old to 78 years old. And then thats what gets exported to the world is the notion that Joiss system is ancient or that it goes back to Patanjali, or something like that when theres no evidence for that at all. Thats a huge, hugely important piece that I think gets overlooked. Why was it me? Why was it me? And I believe that if, if in some cases, if those portraits on those altars are looked at from just the right angle, the person might go, Oh my God, actually hes not who I thought I was, who he was after all. And I dont think you have to be worried about virtue-signaling by referring to what survivors of sexual assault need. So its really, its really complicated. And I believe we are or should I say that we can become that? Your email address will not be published. And so theres a way in which people show up in spaces like this and they are working so extrovertedly with their bodies in very vulnerable positions and theyre told that this practice will have kind of like a total effect upon their bodies, minds, emotions, psyches. And its something that Yoga Alliance may adopt in part, not because I wrote it or anything, but because its in the air now theyre doing a renovation of their standards after 19 years. Previously, I was a postdoctoral fellow in the Laboratoire Jacques-Louis LionsLink opens in a new window at Sorbonne Universit with Prof Ugo BoscainLink opens in a new window and a member of the Inria ParisLink opens in a new window team CAGELink opens in a new window. I studied Asthanga yoga for 10 years in the 90s but somehow avoided going to Mysore. So as a cultural critic, as Ive reported on various abuse stories, the Anusara implosion, the Jivamukti lawsuit, the Satyananda Yoga thing, Shambhala, Rigpa As Ive done that work, Ive made a lot of allies and Ive made a lot of enemies. Loving mother and mother-in-law of Michael Whitla and the . What we need here is a Truth and Reconciliation process and it needs to start with the truth. Landlines (2) (413) 256-0152 (413) 207-3124 View Karen's Phone Numbers. And so I didnt actually you asked the question and I didnt want to go on a rant about . Marian was a Charter. Join Facebook to connect with Karen Haberman and others you may know. And you know, the relationship between the teacher and the student is sacred. It's changing national security, too. Rainfall totals from July 1 through March 1, along with average yearly rainfall: Arroyo Grande - 24.33 inches to date - average 14.09 inches. I watched it on mute because there was something vaguely military about Jois' staccato Sanskrit counts. I was totally shocked. According to her family tree, she married Jimmy D. Golson on July 6, 1987 in Texas . Thanks so much for coming on. . Court records for this case are available from Stanley Mosk Courthouse. What was it about the Ashtanga situation itself that made you want to put it in the forefront of your case study in the book? Let me interject for a sec. One thing thats come up from me is that Ive had some studios on my schedule that still have photographs of Pattabhi Jois in their altar corner of the studio. This conversation covers topics like sexual abuse that might be sensitive to some . Read more. And just to jump on that for a second around the nature of the adjustments, because weve discussed how theres a component of sexual assault in them, but the physical assault too the stories of people just hearing ligaments snap or rip. So people are capable of all kinds of BS when it comes to the interpretability of the magical person. Lets take our power back and stop projecting it on people who are as flawed as we all are. And so what that means is that theyre saying that a technique that Jois developed in the late sixties and changed several times as his shala got busier, theyre implying that that is traditional in a way. As Karen Rain says, this whole sort of slew of cryptic justifications arose around his behavior. She gives lots of papers and doesn't explain what she expects in them and grads very harsh 2005-2020. Its not like youre going to give it. The residency of Karen is at 775 Barnes Lake Drv, NYA, MN 55397-9276. Thats like a bad apple and a whole bunch of people saying, No, this is great. 1:47:51. Karen Rain (pictured) says Ashtanga yoga guru Pattabhi sexually assaulted her and other women while she studied with him in Mysore, India, in the mid 1990s. I do know that whether theyre accurate interpretations or not, there are all kinds of yoga or Buddhist or pseudo-yoga or pseudo-Buddhist ideas around, emptiness, interpretability, the play of Lila, karma, all kinds of, of terms that are correctly or incorrectly used to describe or to rationalize things that we would rather not confront as being abusive. Every day, Karen Rain and thousands of other voices read, write, and share important stories on Medium. And I know youre excellent at eviscerating both of those, those, those veins, right? And you know, she laid out this five point, this is how my participation in this organization is complicit with this abuse history and here are the five things that Im going to do now in my classes to make sure that I dont carry any of those impacts on. There has been a couple of other statements like that, but hers is a real standout. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. And at a certain point I realized that the injury question in the Ashtanga world, which is profound, its, it goes deep was still a surface question to the abuse issue that had been silent for many, many years, but also carried by a number of women survivors in a kind of whisper network as well. Gregor Maehle interviewed by Alvise Vianello, On Mudras, Tantric Meditation and teaching, Adam Keen interviews Gregor on Yoga for Mental Health. Available from Stanley Mosk Courthouse he is the author of eight books of poetry, fiction, share. 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